When I encounter a bear I instantly & CALMLY get a weapon ready & look for the safest route away from the bear as Im evaluating the bears behaviour. And I feel there is not enough information to make any such diagnosis. But I definitely would have had a firearm with me, just for protection. So it was clear that he did have mental health issues, to say the least. And sadly his girlfriend lost her life too hanging out with a fool. As a new film. i learned everything i needed to know about what happened, plus ive gained a few tips on what not to do in bear encounters. A threat to the males. No gun, no weapon of any kind except for a frying pan, screaming was all she had left. (Dalrymple 2003 , Van Daele 2004) Right at the end of a three month long salmon spawn, which would indicate that this bear was no longer able to feed on natural food items as efficiently, as well as in competition with other, younger, stronger, more dominant bears for what little food remained, and we know from past experience that an older bear no longer able to feed on natural foods, will make more use of garbage, and often raid camps and cabins if it has ever had those food items available to it in the past.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_5',119,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); Bears are opportunistic in obtaining food. One scene that was not included in the movie was of Jewel Palovak and pilot Willy Fulton looking down on the decayed carcass of a young sub-adult bear. Often ripping and tearing the scalp, ears, and face. Jewel states that no bears were poached while Tim was in Katmai, but that after he died 6 bears were poached within the park. Props to trainer Mr. Seus, but after reading this article, I would have to say that more credit for these large feats of acting and creating believable scenes of violent fights successfully and in always leaving every make-believe fight contestant, remarkably unscathed! Jake Adelstein's wife, relatives, and kids, Tsukumo Sana: Who Was She Before Hololive? On October 5th, 2003, grizzly bear enthusiast Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend Amie Huguenard were mauled to death by a grizzly bear while camping in Katmai National Park. I cant find little Booble. In Alaska, that kind of behavior makes a man stand outand not in a good way. But I'm not a fan of Treadwell. MEN are supposed to, since Time Immemorial, PROTECT Those in Our Charge from EXACTLY THIS KIND OF DANGER. (Egli 2004) The smaller younger bear had been eaten by other bears before the multi-agency team could return and only the head remained, so no determination could be made as to whether this young bear played any part in the deaths or the consumption of the victims. Don't know why are so many bipolars posting thad Tim was a bipolar too. while pointing to the right. 2003 Scene Investigator. Nothing wrong with that, but perhaps he was always disappointed that he wasn't more of an action hero, and deliberately put himself in dangerous situations to prove that idea wrong. Only Tim, and of course Amie for trusting Tim, but then who can really say? To make this guy out to be a true conservationist is an insult to those knowledgeable rangers, hunters, sportsmen, etc that understand that these bears are wild animals that cannot be truly humanly domesticated and trusted as by there very nature have animal instincts that will ultimately prevail. (Treadwell 2001). Treadwell, was incapable to discern between his "bears" previous behaviour and the one incident of a malnourished bear having a migraine, right before their monthly period ( if you know what I mean) People also behave differently during times of stress and do very messed up things. Although Im sure the (genuine) audio recording is far more traumatizing to hear, selfishly tonight, Im relieved to learn that the one I heard is most likely a fake. I know, Ive experienced it myself and I have seen folks give up high paying jobs just to be able to do it. When I found out about this case I was wondering if there will be someday a truth - revealing moment in this case. Possibly pushing Bipolar 1. Therefore, he had thought processing skills of 10-13 year old boy. For 13 summers Timothy Treadwell fled California for the wilds of Alaska, where he set his camp among some of the largest and most numerous brown bears left in North America. 2003, Treadwell Incident Review Board Member. This of course I say with the upmost respect to her and Tim as I write this from the confort of my living room. Wish she'd had a gun, in a reasonable caliber. During this period, Tims cries and pleadings can be heard for two-thirds of that time. Feel sad for his girlfriend thought, seems to me he dragged her to that life. Bear spray is allowed, however Tim had quit carrying bear spray for protection several summers prior to his death. Unconventional? Nope, No Sympathy for HIM. That also weakens the piece just a bit (I am reluctant to say) but it's the truth. Whittlesey, Lee H. 1995, Death in Yellowstone, Accidents and Foolhardiness in the First National Park: Roberts Rinehart Publishers. This guy just annoys me. Great article. Votes: 6 11.1% Run Like Hell! i really hope that some good will come out of this tragedy. Yes, the cubs are so cute but not your friends. Likewise, we know from Tims diary that Amie was frightened of bears. Thank Deity for small miracles.Next, someone here or elsewhere mentioned the differing perception and treament between Gentle Ben and rattlesnakes, as in, why. He goes on and on about "wishing he was gay", as "it would be so much easier"anyone watching the doc and watching and listening to him had to be thinking, "who are you kidding? She trusted TT, against her own instincts towards the end, and sadly paid the ultimate price.Great article about a sad and fascinating event. Leave them be. I watched the docu and it was very engrossing. Why would she as far away from it as he is? This could have very well been me. Very sad ending to their lives. Defiance and disregard for orders from supeiors seems to have been as much fun for him as ourting death with man eaters. (Ellis 2003, pg 2)if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_2',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-large-leaderboard-2-0'); Willy advises the rangers that there is only room for one plane to park near the camp and climbs into the park service Cessna for the quick taxi to the south shore. Have had zero use for coyotes ever since (the occasional now and again reports of one trying to wander off with someone's child hasn't helped). 2003, AP Wire Interview. There is an old Pioneer story about one of the original pioneering families on Afognak, (island next to Kodiak). Look at how many idiots get killed driving drunk? Lets face it, humans are not exactly the cleanest animals on the planet, what harm would it do to just toss this banana peal or apple core?. Ive found some of the reviews really interesting too. Bears along the Alaskan coast are well-fed because of the areas salmon runs. 175pp. I was like 8 years and and that shit fucking traumatised me. 2003, Scene Investigatorif(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-portrait-2','ezslot_22',134,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-portrait-2-0'); We thank our friends at GPSTS.org for supporting us. Animals are capable to express and behave as does any human in very similar ways. I no he hiding from PS and reason why he probably didnt. Well after bashing tim a bit i'll say i love the guy see alot of myself in him. Hi Mr. Sanders,Thank you for the thorough research and analysis. But we've experienced a slow process of domestication via civilization, something that animals like bears and big cats have not. A video camera was recovered at the site that proved to have been operating during the attack, but police said that the six-minute tape contained only voices and cries as a brown bear mauled Treadwell to death. I give him a lot of respect for going into Alaska with none. The chilling final moments of Timothy and his girlfriend were captured on tape as they were mauled to death by a brown bear. Remember a cover is nice but a cover is not the book.. You did a well written report and most of us appreciate it. All I know is anyone who beats on a bear with a frying pan has balls, no matter how long they hesitate. He seems a man who felt betrayed the people who meant the most to him and his stubborn pride made him seek out love and acceptance from a source that wouldn't judge him. For 13 years Timothy Treadwell spent his summers camping out in Alaska with wild bears. In fact tim would shit just how aware those bears were of his stash should have been up in tree with a rope at least 50 yards from his campsite. Treadwell appears to have some prior encounters with bears, but his and his girlfriends arrival was untimely given that the parks food supply was less plentiful than typical during the season of their visit. Appearing as though she were peacefully asleep except that her body, like Tims, had been mostly eaten by the bear. The author states "bear #141 was a bear that Tim had named Ollie, the big old grumpy bear, and this is the bear identified by Hertzog in Grizzley Man as the bear that probably killed Tim and Amie. (Fulton 2003, 2004), Incident Diagram courtesy National Park Service (Body locations are noted by author). The Pioneer awoke in the middle of the night to his horses screaming in the barn. Fallico, Dr. Timothy Treadwell AKA The Grizzly Man Autopsy Photos Grab a Frying Pan & Hit It on the Head! Katmai Park Ranger. Ranger Gilliland fires a warning shot into the air, however the bear did not react. Some readers may find the following information and examination disturbing. The tapes, which capture the sounds of Timothy and Huguenards deaths, are described by Mirror as being rather gory. Hysterical and paralyzed with fear, standing just outside of the tent until the bear returned and attacked her. A six-minute recording of the bear mauling two of them was also found on the video camera that was recovered from the location of their dead bodies. Why anyone would want to listen to the tape of his being killed I will never understand. I just don't like some of my behaviors during it. Apparently my horses can hear a heartbeat from x distance. It seems to be more than just pure luck. Those are questions that will never be answered. Van Daele, Larry. I think thats what helped Treadwells LUCK, he stayed calm.I have no respect for Treadwell. Every thought, every bear, every encounter, virtually every moment of every day, so that the camera became an extension of his body, and to think that Amie somehow knew that she and Tim were going to die that night is hard to believe. Who knows? Another observation is the clips of him on TV. Later, Treadwells deformed skull, part of his spine, right forearm, and hand were found beside their camp, while Amies bones were discovered next to the ripped and destroyed tent. Thank you for not pursuing in publising the book, thats so human of you and tells more about what type of person you are. (Gilliland 2003, pg 10), Meanwhile, rangers Dalrymple and Ellis, having just reached the plane and out of ear shot of the activity unfolding back at camp, spot a large adult bear moving down the trail from the camp. 2005, Trapped: The Life Of Timothy Treadwell; A Cry For Help, Schullery, Paul. Be aware and be smart. Audio Recording of the death of Timothy Treadwell, "The Grizzly Man". Then there was the way Treadwell acted around bears. Ranger Ellis states that the visibility was poor with a heavy growth of bushes and tall grass, the camp was located on top of a ridge and out of our sight. The State Theatre 2003 National Park Service Incident Report, pages 11, 12. There have been only a handful of fatal wolf attacks in the last 100 years in all of North America, and most of these involved rabid animals. Timothy Treadwell formed mutual bonds between the wild creatures and spent the majority of his waking hours playing and observing the large wild beasts. Nature is cruel. He left his parents nearly nothing, which also could indicate his distant relationship with both of them. (Fulton 2004), Likewise, after reviewing the video tape made by Tim 10 days before he was killed, it is now believed that bear #141 was a bear that Tim had named Ollie, the big old grumpy bear. Is the reason why we can hear drops of rain on the tent, wind through the treetops, bear growling and bones cracking or fracturing. Maybe. He needed someone that cared enough to get him help. But it's still not enough to make a diagnosis without professional guidance. My Dad would have liked to have read it. I easily get bored when encountered with long paragraphs but yours definitely intrigued me more. Ranger Ellis fires 11 times while rangers Gilliland and Dalrymple each fire 5 times, dropping the bear 12 feet away. Excellent article about Timothy Treadwell. Who knows, all I can defiantly say is that he was very childlike, and obviously wanted to stay in a protected, child-like world. I would think twice from just sending this as a letter to Alaska Parks and Recreation Admin for fear I wouldn't get the intelligent and unbiased author, rather that my letter and others and future letters penned by prospective park employees or bear enthusiasts wishing to be the next Mr. Seus or Mr. Treadwell (at heart but with an educated mind) anyway, I would perhaps refrain from mailing this letter in search of seeking the experienced insightful author (name unknown) as it's recipient but,dreadfully, falling in the red neck ignorant hands of the pilot man who said outloud in a movie without much hesitation, that Treadwell got what he deserved. If I cared about bears that much. Modesto, CA. There is no doubt that the sights and sounds of Tim being dragged away from camp by the bear horrified Amie to the point where she lost her mind with fear. But I don't really think so, I think he was just the Average, Common Ass, Garden Variety Insanely ARROGANT, Narcissistic Human Privileged American- Dangerously Clueless, all the while THINKING He actually has a Clue, when everyone around him KNOWS he Truly does not know the difference between Shit and Shine-ola. I enjoyed your writing, research, and opinion and very much think you should write your book. Willy states that he could not be 100% sure, but was confident that something was wrong. Thank you for putting this story up with your own insightful input.If you see a black mama bear racing towards you and your heart beat doesn't change, you are an abnormal human being.I you glanced around and saw a grizzly bear at a distance and your heart does not stop for a moment, you are a very abnormal human being.If additionally, you attempted to go and manipulate the behaviour of those wild animals in order to have them coexist with you, you must be crazily delusional.Many delusional people go in life not having their delusion proven to them. This gives a more in depth look onto Tim, Amie, and the incident. The one rule he should have broken but ironically never did was not to be armed. Some have said that they've seen a good deal and couldn't help but notice that the late Mr. Treadwell's gals' presence on film is rather insignificant, leaving them to conclude that he was not so much interested in bears but instead himself (i.e., was all about him and not the bears).Next, re those coyotes following you, once had occasion to live on a farm/ranch with my one aunt/uncle/cousins. Im not a Psychologist but on molestation I could be. When you tell someone youre an actor & then proceed to talk about your friend using steps you learned in acting class you lose the human element. 1985, Bear Attacks, Their Causes and Avoidance: Lions & Burford Publishers. The article is 5 stars!! Sunday night, and not during the day while Tim was normally out filming and interacting with bears. Certainly a horrible way of dying, Amy was brave no doubt about it. The length of the tape (six minutes +) argues against it being Bear 141. This reminded me of that young "missionary" who was killed by some time he delusionally wanted to convert.I never heard of Treadwell before seeing him in some random Facebook comment on a stupid video about cute cuddly bears being just like humans. At the same time, it would been feeling wrong to receive any money from it. In one of the more powerful scenes in Werner Herzog's 2005 documentary film about the attack, Grizzly Man, the director himself bears witness to this auditory horror. (Ellis 2003, pg 5). I never forgot it since I first read it over 15 yrs ago - everything you wrote, in such detail, is sanely deductive, intelligent, thoughtful & totally haunting. Now my take. The word WANNABE pops into my head. Raised in the Rockies, surrounded by all wildlife, taught at an early age, never let your guard down and they are not your friends or pets. So if she did attempt to followneed to preserve that meal. And if your in Healy they ask or say dont pull a chris macanless. Often attempting to touch both cubs and adults. The bear-mauling deaths of Californians Timothy Treadwell and Amie Huguenard -- widely believed to have happened in the dark of night along the Katmai coast in October -- actually appear to have occurred at midday, according to a new report from the National Park Service. After all, he camped on established bear trails, or near intersecting bear trails, and had contact with the same bears every year and felt he knew each one personally. I found this name early with a small description of what happened while watching some videosabout into the wild, I decided to look further into it. Tim leaves the tent and walks away from the tent and towards the bear. Votes: 8 14.8% Climb a Tree & Wait For Help! "Come out here; I'm being killed out here," he screams. According to Wilkinson, the tape begins with sounds of Treadwell screaming that he is being . A copy editor would have helped you clarify long run-on sentences and punctuation errors. I wish he took the rifle which was offered to him by the guy who dropped off supplies via sea plane. How can others properly cite your article and moreso, with it basically being as close to anonymous as any, how can we use your powerful undying words and say they are from an expert? 1. Specifically learn about bipolar mania and hypomania. Treadwell, Tim. I really loved this article. I just wanted to say that you did an amazing job. He lived off canned packed food while his bears foraged to stay alive wanted people to believe he was alone when he was not. He loved nature. The grizzly bear is thought to have killed Timothy, a documentary filmmaker, and environmentalist, along with his partner Amie. Caused by animals. Interesting, well done and terrifying article. And don't understand, at all, the play dead, since if unable to discern female or male, and even if they could, these were brown and not black bears, so any cubs won't be safe up in the tree, meaning mom is going to eliminate any perceived threat by finishing you off, and then back to her cubs (brown bear likely leaves back to her cubs as soon as no perceived threat, so with mom black bear, by all means, play dead if you can't slowly back away.Next, you are rather likely right in the one respect. The thing that really stands out to me, on top of everything else, is that he (TT) had no back up plan. I would read a book by this author . Ignoring and shunning the more aggressive and confrontational side of humanity and falling back on a kind of Disney perception of right and wrong. the reason? (More on this I discovered only one official document which Tim used to track and record public use from June 27, 1999 through July 10, 1999 and one unofficial hand written document regarding weather for June 1-13, 2000. Summary: Articles about Coroner photos of timothy treadwell - PDF Free Download Extremely disturbing audio . However, author Nick Jans, author of The Grizzly Maze: Timothy Treadwell's Fatal Obsession with Alaskan Bears had photos provided by the rangers and one was a photo of Bear 141. My next point is about people posting about which type of mental illness Tim had. Tim Treadwell was an idiot and a mentally ill man child who as a grown man still felt the adolescent urge to defy authority. Calling him nuts. If Tim was working closely with the park service, why did he feel the need to hide his camps from them? Did Amie try and keep the tents between herself and the bear when it returned? Thank you for the new knowledge, and the time you put in. The footage that he himself shot forms the core of this fascinating inquiry into the fragile relationship between man and nature. The next voice is from Timothy as he screams Get out here! Great article with new perspectives.Sad end of an extraordinary man and his love. 2003 Park Service Incident Report pages 2,3,9. Who, even though horrified at the sights and sounds of Tim being eaten alive, stayed with a man she knew was hell bent on destruction, overcoming her fear and fought a thousand pound grizzly bear with nothing more than a frying pan for at least 6 minutes in an attempt to save her friend and lover Tim Treadwell. For starters, Treadwell was an outsider, a Californian from the weird-wacky end of the scale, a guy sporting a shock of blond hair and a backward baseball cap, with the outdoors skills youd expect of a former Malibu cocktail waiter. And being a bear of a older generation, it was offended by the display of foreign, carnal rogering.I long for the day in which wild animals, such as bears, will stop judging with their homophobia.Ps: Bears in a gay bar are not the same as wild bears in Alaska! It is not benefiting from death, but rather valuing life. I am sure a select few know who wrote the above piece. It is sad two of thewonderful, powerful, primitive, wild and majestic beastshad to die because of silly California Tourists who like tomake videos. 2001, Discovery Channel on camera interview. The bears have gotten used to me, and that is dangerous, it all is. I bet he was deeply regretful, too, of not having at least some bear spray. Eight days later they are discovered dead. Anything that made it past that wild hell would have to have been incredibly tough.We lived through those times and it probably explains why we humans are as violent as we are. 2003 Park Service Incident Report; pages 1-9. "Come out here, I'm being killed!!! Audio From The Death Tapes Of Timothy Treadwell And Amie Huguenard On Reddit. The article is great except that the author does not correctly identify the bear that killed and ate Tim and Amie. Only a damned fool faces man eaters unarmed and the park service is crazy to ask anyone to do so, the bears be damned. Huguenard quit her job on Jan. 31, 2003 and moved to Malibu where she was to start a new job after she and Tim returned for the winter. The audience and admirers of natural explorers were therefore interested in learning about the terrible event that occurred in the National Park. Part of the reason people like him start to get this romantic view of nature is because it is over-romanticized in much of popular culture, especially documentaries. I find it unbelievable for such thing to happen, to be eaten alive. Rarer yet, a bear who then consumes the victims. Just like any of us camping in a hostile environment. Not only that, but there are clues hidden in his childhood. No matter how many safety precautions you may have taken, or how prepared you might be. Warning: What you are about to read is graphic in detail, Originally published online October 14, 2003. This was excellent. Timothy Treadwell knew these things, but he decided to do what he did anyway. No gun, I know, not permitted in national parks at the time. We had radio contact with Alaska State Troopers Hill and Jones, who were forced to park their plane 300 meters away and had to hike through the thick brush, so we elected to wait at the base of the hill until Troopers Hill and Jones could catch up. It's extremely ruthless. I slowly raised up and looked around, only to discover that a family of 6 coyotes had moved in behind me, the adult alphas sitting within feet of me while the pups played nearby. The young gets to the age where, they will Challenge the older, leaders for Authority if he beaten he kick out the Clan. In some cases it's a fight to the death. Tim and Amie decide to stay a week later than they had ever stayed in the past, in search of a favorite bear yet unseen. Dalrymple, Derek. Duh. I remember about 15 years ago or something my dad showed me an email PowerPoint thing about Timothy treadwell attack that used to get passed around. Herrero, Dr. Stephen. The pair visited Katmai National Park, which is situated in the Alaska Peninsula across Shelikof Strait from Kodiak Island, with the explorers girlfriend Amie, a physician assistant. In this footage, Amie is obviously nervous and scared as she leans away from the bear. It seemed so obvious to me. Or maybe, I was the food! You ARE gay". The world needs to quit studying gas bubbles in Antarctic ice and redirect those funds to lead a manmade effort that involves transporting protein from beef or pork to the Arctic homes of the majestic polar bears. Leans away from the confort of my living room to happen, to )... 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